Baptism

This page is dealing with a very difficult topic and is thus an ongoing project. For me, Baptism remains a very grey area and hence the research is ongoing.

Begotten

Psalm 2:7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou [art] my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

The words used

When restricting oneself to the scripture alone, it is necessary to understand that we are restricting ourself to the written form of communication. Why is this important? Because the written form of communication is a "middleman" that conveys the message to us. This middleman however only delivers the message, he does not ensure that we <u>read</u> the message correctly and also does not tend to the <u>understanding</u> of the message he so delivers.

Hence, when we read, we should not be ignorant in what we think we understand, but need to take great care in examining exactly what the messenger is conveying and ensuring that our understanding is accurate.

Therefore, before we go into any specifics, lets summarize the particular words used surrounding this concept of baptism. We will follow the Strongs concordance references to identify those words, however will consider multiple definitions or sources when exploring the meaning thereof.

G911 - Bapto - βάπτω

Per Strongs - full entry:

βάπτω báptō, bap'-to; a primary verb; to whelm, i.e. cover wholly with a fluid; in the New Testament only in a qualified or special sense, i.e. (literally) to moisten (a part of one's person), or (by implication) to stain (as with dye):—dip.

Upon analyses - two possible options stand out:

# "to immerse, dip" (derived from the root signifying "deep")

# "to dye", which is suggested by Rev19:13

, the meaning is to whelm, that is to cover wholly with a fluid; in the New Testament however, this word according to Strongs is used only in a "qualified or special" sense, namely, (literally) to moisten a part of one's person, or (by implication) to stain as with a dye.

Variations - occurance of the word in the different sources

mGNT	TR	LXX
βάψας — 1x Jhn 13:26 - Jesus answered, He it is, to whom I shall give a sop, when I have dipped G911 it. And when he had dipped the sop, he gave it to Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon.	βάψας — 1x Jhn 13:26 - Jesus answered, He it is, to whom I shall give a sop, when I have dipped G911 it. And when he had dipped the sop, he gave it to Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon.
βάψῃ — 1x Luk 16:24 - And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip G911 the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.	βάψῃ — 1x Luk 16:24 - And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip G911 the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.	βαφῇ — 1x Psa 68:23 - That thy foot may be dipped in the blood of thine enemies, and the tongue of thy dogs in the same.
βάψω — 1x Jhn 13:26 - Jesus answered, He it is, to whom I shall give a sop, when I have dipped G911 it. And when he had dipped the sop, he gave it to Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon.
		βάψει — 7x Lev 4:6 - And the priest shall dip his finger in the blood, and sprinkle of the blood seven times before the LORD, before the vail of the sanctuary. Lev 4:17 - And the priest shall dip his finger in some of the blood, and sprinkle it seven times before the LORD, even before the vail. Lev 14:6 - As for the living bird, he shall take it, and the cedar wood, and the scarlet, and the hyssop, and shall dip them and the living bird in the blood of the bird that was killed over the running water: Lev 14:16 - And the priest shall dip his right finger in the oil that is in his left hand, and shall sprinkle of the oil with his finger seven times before the LORD: Lev 14:51 - And he shall take the cedar wood, and the hyssop, and the scarlet, and the living bird, and dip them in the blood of the slain bird, and in the running water, and sprinkle the house seven times: Num 19:18 - And a clean person shall take hyssop, and dip it in the water, and sprinkle it upon the tent, and upon all the vessels, and upon the persons that were there, and upon him that touched a bone, or one slain, or one dead, or a grave: Deu 33:24 - And of Asher he said, Let Asher be blessed with children; let him be acceptable to his brethren, and let him dip his foot in oil.
		βάψεις — 1x Rth 2:14 - And Boaz said unto her, At mealtime come thou hither, and eat of the bread, and dip thy morsel in the vinegar. And she sat beside the reapers: and he reached her parched corn, and she did eat, and was sufficed, and left.
βεβαμμένον — 1x Rev 19:13 - And he was clothed with a vesture dipped G911 in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.	βεβαμμένον — 1x Rev 19:13 - And he was clothed with a vesture dipped G911 in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
		βαφήσεται — 1x Lev 11:32 - And upon whatsoever any of them, when they are dead, doth fall, it shall be unclean; whether it be any vessel of wood, or raiment, or skin, or sack, whatsoever vessel it be, wherein any work is done, it must be put into water, and it shall be unclean until the even; so it shall be cleansed.
		βάψαντες — 1x Exo 12:22 - And ye shall take a bunch of hyssop, and dip it in the blood that is in the bason, and strike the lintel and the two side posts with the blood that is in the bason; and none of you shall go out at the door of his house until the morning.
		ἐβάφη — 2x Dan 4:33 - The same hour was the thing fulfilled upon Nebuchadnezzar: and he was driven from men, and did eat grass as oxen, and his body was wet with the dew of heaven, till his hairs were grown like eagles' feathers, and his nails like birds' claws. Dan 5:21 - And he was driven from the sons of men; and his heart was made like the beasts, and his dwelling was with the wild asses: they fed him with grass like oxen, and his body was wet with the dew of heaven; till he knew that the most high God ruled in the kingdom of men, and that he appointeth over it whomsoever he will.
		ἐβάφησαν — 1x Jos 3:15 - And as they that bare the ark were come unto Jordan, and the feet of the priests that bare the ark were dipped in the brim of the water, (for Jordan overfloweth all his banks all the time of harvest,)
		ἔβαψας — 1x Job 9:31 - Yet shalt thou plunge me in the ditch, and mine own clothes shall abhor me.
		ἔβαψεν — 3x Lev 9:9 - And the sons of Aaron brought the blood unto him: and he dipped his finger in the blood, and put it upon the horns of the altar, and poured out the blood at the bottom of the altar: 1Sa 14:27 - But Jonathan heard not when his father charged the people with the oath: wherefore he put forth the end of the rod that was in his hand, and dipped it in an honeycomb, and put his hand to his mouth; and his eyes were enlightened. 2Ki 8:15 - And it came to pass on the morrow, that he took a thick cloth, and dipped it in water, and spread it on his face, so that he died: and Hazael reigned in his stead.

G907 - baptizō - βαπτίζω

Per Strongs - full entry:

βαπτίζω baptízō, bap-tid'-zo; from a derivative of G911; to immerse, submerge; to make whelmed (i.e. fully wet); used only (in the New Testament) of ceremonial ablution, especially (technically) of the ordinance of Christian baptism:—Baptist, baptize, wash.

mGNT	TR	LXX
βαπτίζει — 2x Jhn 3:26 - And they came unto John, and said unto him, Rabbi, he that was with thee beyond Jordan, to whom thou barest witness, behold, the same baptizeth, G907 and all men come to him. Jhn 4:1 - When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized G907 more disciples than John,
βαπτίζειν — 2x Jhn 1:33 - And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize G907 with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth G907 with the Holy Ghost. 1Co 1:17 - For Christ sent me not to baptize, G907 but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
βαπτίζεις — 1x Jhn 1:25 - And they asked him, and said unto him, Why baptizest thou G907 then, if thou be not that Christ, nor Elias, neither that prophet?
βαπτίζομαι — 2x Mar 10:38 - But Jesus said unto them, Ye know not what ye ask: can ye drink of the cup that I drink of? and be baptized G907 with the baptism that I am baptized with? G907 Mar 10:39 - And they said unto him, We can. And Jesus said unto them, Ye shall indeed drink of the cup that I drink of; and with the baptism that I am baptized withal G907 shall ye be baptized: G907
βαπτιζόμενοι — 1x 1Co 15:29 - Else what shall they do which are baptized G907 for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized G907 for the dead?
βαπτίζονται — 1x 1Co 15:29 - Else what shall they do which are baptized G907 for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized G907 for the dead?
βαπτίζοντες — 1x Mat 28:19 - Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing G907 them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
βαπτίζοντος — 1x Mar 6:24 - And she went forth, and said unto her mother, What shall I ask? And she said, The head of John the Baptist.
βαπτίζω — 3x Mat 3:11 - I indeed baptize G907 you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize G907 you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: Luk 3:16 - John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize G907 you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize G907 you with the Holy Ghost and with fire: Jhn 1:26 - John answered them, saying, I baptize G907 with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not;
βαπτίζων — 7x Mar 1:4 - John did baptize G907 in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins. Mar 6:14 - And king Herod heard of him; (for his name was spread abroad:) and he said, That John the Baptist G907 was risen from the dead, and therefore mighty works do shew forth themselves in him. Jhn 1:28 - These things were done in Bethabara beyond Jordan, where John was baptizing. G907 Jhn 1:31 - And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing G907 with water. Jhn 1:33 - And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize G907 with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth G907 with the Holy Ghost. Jhn 3:23 - And John also was baptizing G907 in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized. G907 Jhn 10:40 - And went away again beyond Jordan into the place where John at first baptized; G907 and there he abode.
βάπτισαι — 1x Act 22:16 - And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, G907 and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
βαπτίσει — 3x Mat 3:11 - I indeed baptize G907 you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize G907 you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: Mar 1:8 - I indeed have baptized G907 you with water: but he shall baptize G907 you with the Holy Ghost. Luk 3:16 - John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize G907 you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize G907 you with the Holy Ghost and with fire:
βαπτισθεὶς — 3x Mat 3:16 - And Jesus, when he was baptized, G907 went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: Mar 16:16 - He that believeth and is baptized G907 shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. Act 8:13 - Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, G907 he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done.
βαπτισθέντες — 2x Luk 7:29 - And all the people that heard him, and the publicans, justified God, being baptized G907 with the baptism of John. Luk 7:30 - But the Pharisees and lawyers rejected the counsel of God against themselves, being G907 ➔ not baptized G907 of him.
βαπτισθέντος — 1x Luk 3:21 - Now when all the people were baptized, G907 it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, G907 and praying, the heaven was opened,
βαπτισθῆναι — 10x Mat 3:13 - Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized G907 of him. Mat 3:14 - But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized G907 of thee, and comest thou to me? Mar 10:38 - But Jesus said unto them, Ye know not what ye ask: can ye drink of the cup that I drink of? and be baptized G907 with the baptism that I am baptized with? G907 Luk 3:7 - Then said he to the multitude that came forth to be baptized G907 of him, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come? Luk 3:12 - Then came also publicans to be baptized, G907 and said unto him, Master, what shall we do? Luk 3:21 - Now when all the people were baptized, G907 it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, G907 and praying, the heaven was opened, Luk 12:50 - But I have a baptism to be baptized with; G907 and how am I straitened till it be accomplished! Act 8:36 - And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? G907 Act 10:47 - Can any man forbid water, that these should G907 ➔ not be baptized, G907 which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? Act 10:48 - And he commanded them to be baptized G907 in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

A "derivative" means it is a word formed from another word or base. in this case it is

Death

Do we really understand what death is? Yahushua, who was confident in all of Yah's ways, was distressed and prayed before his torture. He confirmed that "if there is no other way" he would do it. Does it really make sense for him to implement such procedure for everyone that wants to follow him? Is it not him that went the way we can't go since it would destroy us? Is it not true that the wild olive is to be grafted into the true olive tree which has the strong root, i.e. Yahushua? Is it not that we live not on our own resources but on his?

Sin has a price and that price is to be paid. Yahushua does save us therefrom by paying that price, his death counts for our death.

How do we arrive at the conclusion that via Baptism, we "die a symbolic death" and Yahushua resurrects us like Yah resurrected Yahushua?

1Cor15:21 For since by man came death, by man also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Messiah shall al be made alive. But every man in his own order. Messiah the firstfruits, afterward they that are Messiahs at his coming. Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to Eloheem, even the Father when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. For he must reign till he hat put all enemies under his feet. The last enemy to be destroyed, is death.

• How do we die? We die as in Adam. How did Adam die? He died on account of his sins. The death is linked to sin. How did Yahushua die? He was murdered. There was no reason for him to die, he was not in Adam as we are.
• Yahushua is all about the resurrection, not the death. Now just like we are in death as in Adam, we will be resurrected in Yahushua. When? According to the order. Messiah is the firstfruits, he is already resurrected. Those that belong to Messiah, at his coming. When is his coming? It is when the kingdoms according to the dream of Nebuchadnezzar comes to an end. In the timeline, we are in the feet of iron and clay which will be hit by the small rock causing the stature to break, bringing an end to all rule and establishing Yahushua's 1000 year rule of peace.
• During Yahushua's reign he will destroy all enemies. Death is one of them. How will death go away? By having sin go away. Why will there be no more sin? Because the law has been written on our hearts and there will be no more transgression.

Remember to also examine the word sleep - as in Job 14 - they shall not be raised out of their sleep.

What about the condition that Yahuah has cursed us with? Rom11:8 According as it is written, Eloheem hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should nto see, and ears that they should not hear unto this day. Rom11:14 if by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them. For if the casting away of the be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead (G3498 nekros - νεκρός)? Jes29:10 For Yahuah hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes. The prophets and your rules, the seers hat he covered and the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which deliver to one that is learned, saying Read this, I pray thee, and he saith, I cannot, for it is sealed.

Egeiro - greek word G1453 ἐγείρω

Strongs G1453 - Probably akin to the base of G58 (through the idea of collecting one’s faculties); to waken (transitively or intransitively), that is, rouse (literally from sleep, from sitting or lying, from disease, from death; or figuratively from obscurity, inactivity, ruins, nonexistence): - awake, lift (up), raise (again, up), rear up, (a-) rise (again, up), stand, take up.

Strongs G58 - From ἀγείρω “ageiro” (to gather; probably akin to G1453); properly the town square (as a place of public resort); by implication a market or thoroughfare: - market (-place), street.

Thayer G1453 - verb - To arouse, cause to rise. To arouse from sleept, to awake. To arouse from the sleep of death, to recall the dead to life. To cause to rise from a seat or bed etc. To raise up, produce, cause to appear, bring to public / raise up, stir up, against one / to raise up, i.e. cause to be born / of buildings - to raise up, construct, erect

Elberfelder 1447 - erwachen, aufwachen, aufwecken. In erster Linie wird es in der Bedeutung Schläfer aufwecken gebraucht (Mat8:25, Apg12:7). Im Passiev heßt es aufwachen, aufstehen (Mat1:24, Röm 13:11). Übertragen ist mit egeiro gemeint, das mann auf seine gefährliche Lage aufmerksam wird und Gottes Rettungsangebot, aus dieser Lage zu helfen, ergreift (Eph 5:14). Ebenso bezeichnet es das Aufrichten derer, die krank sind und Hilfe brauchen, so daß es mit heilen gleichbedeutend wird (Mark1:31, 9:27 Mat12:11, wo es passened mit "herausziehen" übersetzt ist). Im Passiven kann es dann auch genesen, vom Krankenlager aufstehen heißen (Mat8:15, 9:5-7). Besonders wird es jedoch für das Auferstehen zu neuem Leben benutzt (Mat10:8, Apg3:15, 1Kor6:14, 15:4). Das Passiv bedueted in solchem Zusammenhand, der oft durch "con den Toten" gekennzeichnet ist, immer die Auferstehung des Leibes (Mat11:5, 14:2, Rom4:25, 1Kor15:20). Ferner bedueted egeiro aufrichten, aufbauen (Joh2:19). Es kann auch ein Synonym zu anistemi (451) sein, aufstehen, sech erheben, (Mat11:11, 12:42, 25:7, Joh11:29). Mit personalem Objtiev heißt es berbeirufen, erscheinen lassen; im Passiv, erscheinen, sich erheben, hervortreten (Mat24:7,11,24, Mar13:8,22, Apg13:22) Das Passiv beduetet allgemein seine frühere Lage aufgeben, sich erheben, aufstehen (Joh14:31; Offb11:1).

It is clear from the above that this word has nothing to do with the process of how someone or something got into a certain negative situation, but rather with that person or thing recovered from that negative situation. It is not referencing the person being transferred into the sleeping state, but how the person is transferred from it.

Cambridge Dictionary:

Obscurity - the state of not being known to many people. The state or quality of being unclear and difficult to understand or see

This is the "refreshing"

Isa28:12 To whom he said, This [is] the rest [wherewith] ye may cause the weary to rest; and this [is] the refreshing: yet they would not hear.

Is this "refreshing not something like the "rebirth"?

The potters vessel used to draw water is broken

Isaiah 30:11 Get you out of the way, turn aside out of the path, cause the Holy One of Israel to cease from before us.

• Take note who goes up against them

Isaiah 30:12 Wherefore thus saith the Holy One of Israel, Because ye despise this word, and trust in oppression and perverseness, and stay thereon:

Isaiah 30:13 Therefore this iniquity shall be to you as a breach ready to fall, swelling out in a high wall, whose breaking cometh suddenly at an instant.

Isaiah 30:14 And he shall break it as the breaking of the potters’ vessel that is broken in pieces; he shall not spare: so that there shall not be found in the bursting of it a sherd to take fire from the hearth, or to take water [withal] out of the pit.

• So the "method" by which Yahuah goes up against them, is by breaking the potters vessel. This is relevant because it is used to take fire from the hearth and water out the pit. Which fire? and what water?

Isaiah 30:15 For thus saith the Lord GOD, the Holy One of Israel; In returning and rest shall ye be saved; in quietness and in confidence shall be your strength: and ye would not.

Abraham was "redeemed"

Jes29:22 Therefore thus saith Yahuah, who redeemed (H6299 - פדה ) Abraham, concerning the house of Jacob, Jacob shall not now be ashamed, neither shall hsi face now wax pale.

Steekdoring

Look at the word, it says something with connection to "bitter", as in "hurting". Amper soos die dorings en distels wat uit die aarde uitkom. Nou Adam het ook uit die aarde voortgekom. Kan dit dus wees dat hierdie dorings en distels na mense verwys wat uit ons eie gemeenskap voortkom? Wel, soortvan nee, want by die vrugte gaan ons dan die boom ken? Maar, ons weet dan ook dat die doringheining gaan weg geneem word, en ons weet ook dat na die goeie saaier ook die bose saaier gekom het?

Use of the words in general, everyday situations

When examining words and the meanings thereof, we need to look at all the situations where the word came into use. The context of these situations where the words are applied, will allow us to gain more information, another angle of understanding which we should then use while interpreting the meaning of the word.

John 13:26 - Yahushua dip's the bread in the

Jesus ^G2424 answered, ^G611 He ^G1565 it is, ^G2076 to whom ^G3739 I shall give ^G1929 a sop, ^G5596 when I ^G1473 have dipped ^G911 it. And ^G2532 when he had dipped ^G1686 the sop, ^G5596 he gave ^G1325 it to Judas ^G2455 Iscariot, ^G2469 the son of Simon. ^G4613

We all know this section very well. Yahushua dips the bread in the sauce and hands it to Judas. This follows after Yahushua said that he was troubled in spirit and that someone would betray him. The disciples were doubting, whom he would be referring to and Peter thus asked whom it is that he is speaking about. Then Yahushua answered per John13:26.

The first thing to note is that Yahushua did not simply provide the answer. Instead, he dipped the sop and then gave it to the one whom it is. The question we should ask is why does Yahushua act this way? What message is contained in his reaction?

Let's finish off the scene by having a look at what happened afterwards. It is all contained in the next verse, John 13:27

John 13:27 And ^G2532 after ^G3326 the sop ^{G5596 G5119} Satan ^G4567 entered ^G1525 into ^G1519 him. ^G1565 Then ^G3767 said ^G3004 Jesus ^G2424 unto him, ^G846 That ^G3739 thou doest, ^G4160 do ^G4160 quickly. ^G5032

What is the deal with the Water

Isa8:6

psm65:10, also note they sing in last verse

psm46:5

job5:10

Job 9:30 If I wash myself with snow water, and make my hands never so clean;

Other markings

1Joh2:20 But ye have an unction (G5545) from the Holy One and ye know all things

Wash in the old testament

רחץ - rechats - H7365

Dan3:28 - the word "bathed" in Eloheem translated as "trusted".

Sir Alan Gardiner - British Egyptologist

Initiation into the Serapis cult included the rite of baptism, and Sir Alan Gardiner, the British Egyptologist, argued in the Journal of Egyptian Archaeology in 1950 that Egyptian baptism should be seen as analogous to Christian baptism, of which he commented: "In both cases a symbolic cleansing by means of water serves as initiation into a properly legitimated religious life." The cults of Serapis and Isis did not merely survive the emergence of Christianity, but in the 2nd century AD actually increased in popularity. Serapis and Christ existed side-by-side and were frequently seen as interchangeable. Some early Christians made no distinction between Christ and Serapis and frequently worshipped both, while paintings of Isis with her son Horus became identified by early Christians as portraits of Mary with her son Jesus. The rite of baptism, part of the initiation ceremony of the Serapis cult, was also adopted by the Church as part of its initiation ceremony.

In AD 134, after a visit to Alexandria, the Emperor Hadrian wrote a letter to his elderly brother-in-law, Servianus, in which he commented: "So you praise Egypt, my very dear Servianus! I know the land from top to bottom . . . In it the worshippers of Serapis are Christians, and those who call themselves Bishops of Christ pay their vows to Serapis . . . Whenever the patriarch himself comes to Egypt he is made to worship Serapis by some and Christ by others."